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Who are Able Pools and Spas?

Able Pools and Spas, a North Carolina, and South Carolina licensed General Contractor, is a family business owned by Frank and Ruth Kearney.

Since 1992 ABLE Pools and Spas has constructed over 400 Fiberglass pools mostly in New Hanover, Brunswick and Pender counties and as far away as Murrell's Inlet South Carolina, New Bern North Carolina, and many places in between.

In the fall of 2000, we were proud to be awarded an exclusive dealership with San Juan Fiberglass Pools of Lakeland Florida, the industry leader in fiberglass pools. Since our first year with San Juan Pools, we have been named as a "Dealer of Excellence" every year, because of our commitment to high quality construction and customer service - especially after each project has been completed.

San Juan has been building fiberglass pools since 1958 and their first pool is still being used in Seattle Washington over 50 years since it was installed. The San Juan Fiberglass pool company is a family owned business and continues to be run on a daily basis by family members. If we have a question or a concern, or need help or guidance on a particular San Juan fiberglass pool product, it is a wonderful resource to be able to call on any of the hundreds of San Juan Pool dealers across America. We also meet regularly to discuss products and technical improvements and share our experiences in constructing swimming pools.

That is what family business is all about; owners involved every day, and when asked, our customers tell us it is reassuring to be able to get an owner on the phone, or at the jobsite, almost any time, and get answers to queries first-hand from those who make the decisions.

When we were approached by the Jacuzzi Spa representative we were very pleased, as we wanted to offer a line of quality hot tubs. In keeping with our decision to only deal with the best products available, we would settle for nothing less than the world-renowned original spa by which all others are judged: JACUZZI. If you are considering a hot tub, I recommend you visit our showroom at 3934 Market street, and see why Jacuzzi has been the world leader in hot tubs since they first invented them over fifty years ago.

As we move beyond our 20th year here in Wilmington, we are experiencing the pleasure of providing our goods and services to the children of our earlier customers. They have been referred to us by their parents, who suggested they "go see Frank and Ruth at ABLE, and they'll take care of you". This is the best referral of all, and we consider their trust an honor and a privilege.
1. What are the different kinds of swimming pools?

There are many different ways to build swimming pools using various materials. There was a time when some pools were built using plywood as the frame to hold a liner, and we have actually done renovations on a couple of these type pools through our service division. But for our purposes, we should look at the three most common types of swimming pools available today. They are - concrete, vinyl liner and fiberglass swimming pools and we will discuss the pros and cons of each, the construction methods, and relative costs.

Concrete swimming pools are just that - pools constructed of concrete sprayed into a wire mesh formed into the shape of the swimming pool. You will hear concrete pools referred to as shotcrete, Gunite (which is actually a brand name) or just concrete, but the process is essentially the same. The design of the pool is laid out and the ground is excavated. Rebar (reinforcing steel bars) is then formed into the shape of the pool and tied together with steel wire. Then a concrete truck and an air compressor are joined together and the concrete is sprayed (shot) over the wire frame and troweled smooth. As the concrete hardens the pool takes shape, the floor of the pool is sprayed and it is all left to dry. Usually, the concrete is then covered with a coating of plaster (this will eventually become a maintenance issue) which smoothes the rough concrete making it more swimmer friendly. While there is much more to do, and a lot of time left to complete the process, eventually the pool is filled with water, connected to the pump and filter and you are ready to swim.

PROS - Concrete pools can be formed in any shape you can imagine, and are usually the pool of choice for large public swimming pools, hotel pools (although this is changing to fiberglass more often), big water park pools, and recently I saw one designed as a violin with LED lights running the length of the pool to represent strings. If a unique design is your plan, a concrete swimming pool is probably your best choice.

CONS - Concrete swimming pools require a lot of maintenance, with regular brushing and scrubbing as the porous plaster and concrete are a willing harbor for algae of all flavors. Eventually they will need to be acid washed to get them clean, and they will have to be replastered as cleaning will pit and crack the plaster. Also, compared with other types of construction, concrete swimming pools are expensive to build, take a long time to build, and can be rough on the feet and the bathing suit. Chemical balance is critical in a concrete pool, as incorrect levels of various chemicals - calcium for one - will quickly see the plaster erode from the walls, as the water draws calcium to stay balanced. Replastering is a very expensive proposition and often must be accompanied by sand blasting to remove the damaged material. Also, if a concrete pool moves with the ground, for whatever reason, it has very little flexibility, and will often crack. A cracked concrete pool is a serious issue, and depending where the cracks occur, might involve significiant repair work.

Vinyl Liner swimming pools became very popular, and were another option to concrete pools, as the technology of plastics produced sheets of vinyl that could be printed with designs, and produced in varying thicknesses. While still very popular, especially in some of the Northern States, Vinyl Liner pool sales have fallen off significantly over the past ten years, as more homeowners choose fiberglass. The construction technique involves excavating the swimming pool but leaving a ledge (usually about three feet ) around the excavation. This ledge becomes the support for walls, often metal but more often polymer (plastic), which become the walls of the pool at the top. The bottom and remaining dirt walls of the pool are usually coated with a mixture of vermiculite and concrete. A vinyl liner is hung on the walls and allowed to drop into the excavation and provides a means of holding in the water in the exact shape of the excavation. Stairs are usually part of the wall system and the liner is cut to fit around them. Skimmers and returns and any other plumbing fixtures are also cut through the liner, and everything is hooked to the pump and filter.



PROS - vinyl liner pools can be built in most any design, but are usually offered in a set number of designs that are chosen to fit the manufacturers walls. These designs can be easily altered by adding or removing certain walls. Vinyl liner pools are the least expensive of the pool types, and are often a way families can a pool that suits their budget at the time.The liners can be printed in many beautiful patterns that mimic waves and waterline tiles - anything that you could think of, and some actually make the water sparkle in sunlight.

CONS - The largest of these is once again, maintenance. While not as bad as concrete, vinyl will give up calcium very quickly to the pool water. Also, algae is able to find a place to grab on in the vinyl. However, the very thing that makes liner pools attractive is the thing that makes them trouble - the liner. Liner replacement can cost $2500 to as much as $5000 and more, depending on size and related work. Liner warranties are another big problem. While you will hear numbers of 20 or 25 years warranty for a vinyl, that will only cover a failure of the seams - where the pieces of the vinyl are sewn together. Everything else is excluded.

FIBERGLASS swimming pools were first constructed in the 1950's, although fiberglass (glass fibers) had been around since the early 1930's. Although this is oversimplification, air is blown at molten glass and produces strands, or fibers of glass, which can then be woven into matting or spun into strands - fiberglass. The key to fiberglass is the resins that are used to harden the fibers into the tough resilient product we use today to make swimming pools. Sometimes the fiberglass strands are run through a special gun which "chops" the strands while mixing resins but the higher quality swimming pools use sheets of fiberglass and force the resins into the fibers by hand. The mats of fiberglass are then laid on top of each other forming a strong flexible swimming pool. This method requires everything to be done by hand, but produces a beautiful final product that will last a lifetime and more. You can see the process in photographs here http://www.sanjuanpools.com/moreinfo/Fiberglass-Swimming-Pools-construction.aspx and here is a great video of the same process - you might want to turn down the volume and just watch the process http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq7xEeLpDw0

Without getting into mind numbing details, just be aware all fiberglass swimming pools are not constructed alike, and a little research into the company's methods would be worthwhile. And, while fiberglass is (mostly) the same, the resins used are vitally different. The best fiberglass swimming pools, like San Juan Fiberglass Pools, will use pure Vinyl Ester (not marine grade) resins throughout the process - not just on the outside layers. It is more expensive to manufacture that way, but it ensures that your swimming pool will not have problems in a few years with fiberglass starting to come apart.

PROS - Fiberglass swimming pools are as close to maintenance free as you will find. Because the gelcoat (the side you walk on) is so smooth and non-porous, algae just has no way to hold on to the sides. Your stairs and seating areas will not hold dirt and any brushing required will take minutes not hours - in fact just passing a brush close to any dirt sitting on the fiberglass, will cause it to move with just the passing of the water. Fiberglass is tough and strong - almost indestructible, and if the ground moves because of rain water or just shifting, fiberglass will and move with the ground. Chemical needs are significantly reduced with fiberglass, again because it does not let algae take hold, and calcium needs for the water are not as serious as concrete pools. Fiberglass is also the best option for use with salt water pools. Fiberglass is impervious to salt water corrosion unlike concrete which can pit and streak like it does when salt is poured on the sidewalk to melt ice. Fiberglass pools have exploded in popularity over the past 15 years, and are the fastest growing segment of the residential swimming pool market as its strengths become more clear to homeowners.

CONS - Fiberglass swimming pools are always made somewhere else. Unless you live where one of the manufacturers has a facility - San Juan is in Lakeland Florida - your pool will have to be brought to you by truck. Because of bridges, overpasses, and State laws, the maximum height that can be transported is about 17 feet, so your fiberglass pool will have to be 17 feet wide or less. Most manufacturers have a set number of designs from which to choose, because each fiberglass pool has to have its own mold, and so choices are limited to the number of molds available to the manufacturer. San Juan pools currently offers 77 different designs, so there is something for everyone. Cost can also be an issue for potential fiberglass pool owners. While significantly less expensive than concrete pools, fiberglass pools are more expensive than vinyl liner pools - at first - but once you change out a couple of liners, the costs very quickly match each other, and you will never have to replace your fiberglass pool.



2. How Much Should an Inground Pool Cost?

There are a number of things to consider as you investigate costs - the initial cost to get the pool, the cost to maintain the pool, and the unexpected maintenance problems you might have to deal with over the years you own the pool.

I will get right to the point here and tell you that the initial cost for a fiberglass pool will be less than a concrete pool and more than a vinyl liner pool. Regular maintenance on a fiberglass pool will be less than concrete and less than a vinyl liner, and unexpected maintenance on a fiberglass pool will be less than concrete and less than vinyl.

There will be significantly less chemicals needed for fiberglass pools, no liners to change, no walls to scrub or acid wash, no liner leaks at the stairs or outlets, and no replastering. If you drop an anvil on your fiberglass pool and put a two foot hole in the wall, I can have it repaired and looking like new in about six hours - done. That particular aspect of pool ownership is very clear. Initial ownership cost is where you are going to see the greatest differences, and those costs are dictated mostly by the cost of materials, and the cost to install the pool.

From the outset the initial costs of building a pool are much the same. It costs the same amount to get machinery to the property, to lay out the pool, and to excavate the pool design. Equally, each pool builder has to level, and shape the design, cutting the correct angles and making the bottom of the pool ready to begin.

At this point things start to diverge.The concrete pool construction now gets into a long and expensive labor process of bending rebar, and tying each point where the pieces of rebar meet, with metal ties. While this is being done, boards are being placed around the rim of the pool to start to form the concrete as it is sprayed, and plumbing holes are being created and pipes are being inserted in the wire for later placement of returns and main drains and skimmers.

Meanwhile, the vinyl liner construction now begins the process of laying out, erecting, and bolting together the wall panels for the pool. At the shallow end of the pool the stairs are set in place and as the wall panels are slowly brought around they are joined to the stairs. The sides and cross measurements are taken to ensure the pool is square, or in the case of a free form pool, the specified measurements from one point to another are correct - if there is an error here the liner will not fit, and be too tight in places or have folds and wrinkles on the bottom.

The fiberglass pool builder is watching the crane place the shell into the excavation and then begins the process of leveling everything and plumbing the pool. When it is level and the plumbing is done, the excavated soil is put back around the pool as water is put in the pool. The point is, that each pool, requires different construction skills, but the costs are wildly different.

Concrete pools require a lot of manpower and time, vinyl liner pools require a lot of manpower and time, fiberglass pools require a lot of manpower and time, but a major portion of that is done at the plant where the pool is built. So if each pool uses the same pump, filter and accessories why don't they cost the same? Vinyl liner pool kits are relatively inexpensive, costing about 30% of the pool cost with the rest being a function of time, labor, material costs and the cost of the things the pool needs to operate like pumps and filters,and his profit.

Concrete pools have very heavy labor costs, and very skilled labor as well. The people who lay out the rebar, are different from the concrete people, who are different from the plasterers, and although some builders do everything, the vast majority of concrete pool builders subcontract each portion of the pool out to these experts. His other costs are the rebar, and the concrete material, and the other things required for any pool, and his profit.

The fiberglass pool builder has lower labor costs, but the cost of the fiberglass shell is significant - often being more than half the cost of the pool. The shells require lots of manpower and materials, and arrive at your home complete and ready to go. The balance of the costs are in the labor to install, and the pump and filter, and his profit. So, the difference in the prices are mostly in the materials needed, except in the cost of concrete pools which are very labor intensive.

Here are projected costs, assuming nothing extra, no landscaping or water features - just a swimming pool swim ready - just bring your bathing suit.

Unless you live in a big city, where the subcontractors needed are plentiful, your concrete pool will cost about 30% more than a fiberglass pool, and a vinyl liner pool will cost about 20% less than a fiberglass pool. Our average fiberglass swimming pool - is about 12-14 feet wide and 29 feet long, and costs about $33,000. Using that number a similar vinyl liner pool should cost about$26000, and a similar concrete pool should cost about $43000.

To do this yourself, expect a fiberglass swimming pool to cost about $1000 for each foot of length, and then add about10%. It's not very scientific, and accuracy will vary, but it is a good rule of thumb.

As you enter the market, it is important to remember that for the most part, everything else being equal (and it is not always equal depending on manufacturers) the only place a pool builder has to move on his price is by reducing his profit. If business is good, and he is booked up solidly, he won't move. If he has no work, or business is slow, he might work for less to get the job. But the caution here, is that if he is unable to compete because he is being judged on price and only price, one way to get the job and keep his profits, is to reduce the quality of the product he builds for you. In the long view, the cheapest is not always the least expensive, and you are about to spend a lot of your money.



So that should help you get some idea of the relative costs of inground swimming pools. As always it is important to do your research, and know what to expect. You have worked very hard to make this possible, and you have every right to expect that whoever builds your swimming pool will give you value for your money. Look for a good builder, and go look at his work, and remember that the builder who makes a fair profit will still be there when you need warranty or maintenance for your pool.

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What is involved in the construction?
What is involved in the construction?

Will you tear up my yard?



Once the agreement has been signed and the builder has been given the OK to start and a deposit, he should get together with you in your yard and make a decision with you as to where exactly the pool is to go. Keep in mind how you will use the pool, where you expect most of the people to gather, moving into and out of the home - this pool will be in your yard a long time and you should have most of your ideas about this finalized.

When the decision is made as to where it will go, and where the equipment pad will go, your builder will have an outline of the pool drawn in white. It does not need to be exact, as it is there to show No-Cuts where the pool will be so they can look for wires and cables that might be disturbed. They will mark the main power lines, the telephone cable, cable TV lines and gas and water lines.

When the excavator arrives, there will usually be a day or two in digging out the pool and preparing it for the arrival of the shell. At this time some dirt may be removed. If the excavation hits water, the builder will install a sump, as should be mentioned in the agreement, to get the water under control, and sometimes this can take a day or two. Once the excavation is complete, the pool is ready to be put in the excavation, and depending on the access and difficulty getting into the site, you may see a crane or a large forklift at your home. The pool is then put in the hole, and the process of leveling and plumbing begins.

Often much of the plumbing is done before the pool is placed, but once it is level the plumbing is then run to the equipment pad. At about this time, ABLE Pools and Spas will place a large water container in your yard, and begin filling that container with your hose. Contrary to belief, water in most Counties is very inexpensive - about $2.00 per thousand gallons in New Hanover County, but the cost is in the sewer fee charged as the County assumes one gallon in means one gallon of sewerage. We will give you a letter stating that we used X - thousand of gallons to fill a swimming pool and your water bill will be credited the sewer charge.

As the pool is level, and ready for water we will start to return dirt to the hole around the pool, washing it in tightly and tamping it down. At that time we fill the pool from the water we have collected in our water bladder, and the pool is filled very quickly - usually minutes or a couple of hours. Once we have tamped down the soil around the pool, we will place a wire grid around your pool, as required by code, and dig the trenches for the electrical conduit. At that point we will need an inspection.

While we are waiting for the inspection, your plumbing will have been completed, your filter and pump hooked to the system and we will prepare for our electrician. While the electrician is completing his work, we will begin to form for the concrete to be poured around your pool. If we are doing stone coping we will pour a concrete beam around the pool for the stone and get the stone laid, cut and attached to the pool.

Just before the concrete truck arrives, the forms for the cantilevered coping will be attached. Finally the concrete is poured and finished, and the coping forms are removed so the coping can be smoothed. The next day, we return to remove the concrete forms from around the deck, and begin our final cleanup. Any remaining dirt is removed, we level any dirt placed around the pool, trenches are filled in and the pump is energized.

Once we have completed the property cleanup, just before we leave we will do the first cleanup of the pool. There are going to be dust and leaves and pieces of concrete etc., in the pool, and we will get everything out that we can on the first attempt. We usually have a chlorine floater in your pool while we are building, and that keeps the water clear.

The next day, (or two) we will finish cleaning the pool, and finally turn everything over to you. At this time we will spend time instructing you on the pool equipment. By now, we have also taken a sample of the pool water and had it tested in our water lab at our office on Market Street, and we will balance your pool water as needed, add salt for your salt water chlorine generator and ensure everything is working properly.

Because we know there is no way you will remember everything, you will get phone numbers for our office, but also cell phone numbers for after hours contact, in case you have a problem or need something clarified. We make great efforts to be accessible to our customers, especially immediately after pool construction is complete. You will never get a “mailbox is full” message, and if we cannot answer right away we will return your call as soon as we can.

One other very important thing. We have learned over the years, that customers get very upset when they don’t know what is happening. We will stay in constant contact with you. You will get a phone call each Friday while we are working on your pool, and if we tell you will be there at a certain time we will be there or call to tell you if we will be late. We have been told many times, that our customers greatly appreciate how well we communicate with them about their product, and you should accept nothing less.

As to part B of this question, will you tear up my yard, the answer is “kind of”. Often times I have suggested our customers pull down the shades on the windows overlooking the back yard, and we will let you know when to look again. It can be very stressful, and if we get a number of days with rain, and the yard gets muddy and no work can be done, you will have a difficult time, unless you prepare. One thing we do to prevent damage, is to lay out our construction mats for our heavy equipment to travel over your lawn. This prevents the deep ruts that are so common on pool jobsites, from ruining your lawn.



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We recommend you call your landscaper, and have them identify where your sprinkler system is in your yard, and cap the areas to be excavated. That way you will still be able to irrigate your yard, even when our equipment snags a line. If you have favorite plants, shrubs, flowers or flower pots that might be in the way, you should remove them. We will be very careful about your plants, but sometimes trying to fit an excavator through a fence without causing damage can be very distracting and things get trampled, so move whatever you can ahead of time.

If you have a dog, especially if the dog is used to going into the back yard, you should consider another place for the dog to go, or restrain him in a kennel. While we are working there is great risk to animals, but even after we have gone for the day, there could be things that might hurt an animal. Tools and trenches, shovels and wire, simple harmless things to people, can be dangerous to a dog.

We will clean up our jobsite every day before we leave, but you should keep your animals out of the yard. Also, muddy paws across nice carpet, just seems to distress us all. When the excavation is started, we will place a nylon safety fence around the hole to warn children and adults (at night) to be careful, but these are warnings not barriers.

Children especially should never be permitted into the construction area alone. We work very hard to keep your lawn from being damaged. We have specially made mats that we will put on your lawn if we will be going back and forth a lot - especially with a dump truck.

We will discuss many of these things with you before the project starts, and no matter who you choose to do your project you should expect this same level of care and concern.


Can you give me a price on a pool for my home?


Yes we can, and very quickly. We have designed our Pool School to give you as much information as we can about your new fiberglass swimming pool. We know that before you can make any decisions, you will want to be as completely informed as possible. A new fiberglass swimming pool is a big investment, and you will be living with this swimming pool for a long time, so use everything you can find on this site. If you have not yet downloaded our FREE Original Fiberglass Pool Buyers Guide, then we recommend you do so, and you can find that here. If you feel certain all your questions have been answered, and you want to move forward with your product, then please click to visit our FREE QUOTE page here, give us some essential information and we will give you a very clear idea of costs involved in getting your new fiberglass pool.

 
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First let’s discuss the cost of operating the pool pump. You can get an awful lot of conflicting information about this topic, but I believe the correct answer is this - if you run your 1hp pump 12 hours a day, it will cost you about one dollar - or thirty dollars a month. Counting the winter down times and reduced operating times, expect your pool pump to cost about $200 per year. Of course this will vary with the cost of electricity where you live but that number will be close. Many people run their pools 24/7, but there is really no need for that, and it is wasting your money. You should have a timer on your pool, (timers are included on every pool we build), and set the time initially for eight hours a day. In the heat of the summer, consider increasing that time to twelve hours, and in the winter I run my pool only two hours a day. You can also consider operating a variable speed pump, which will run your pump at slower speeds for a longer time. Some of these pumps have an efficiency rating near 90%, and in some States, California for one, there are incentives to convert to these pumps. Be aware they are expensive, and the initial cost can put people off, but over the long term there is no question these pumps will pay for themselves When you think of cost to maintain a pool, as in all things it is the hidden costs that will catch you. With concrete pools and liner pools, we have discussed the potential (and inevitable) problems with liners and plaster resurfacing. With all pools there are costs for chemicals - probably about $150 - $200 a year. With a fiberglass pool those costs will be significantly less because fiberglass pools are so much better at what they do - chemical needs are reduced just because of how fiberglass deals with those things. Parts will wear out, hoses may leak - filters clog up - most of these issues are minor, and your builder should be there to help you with all of these things. I feel like the biggest hidden cost is the time you will have to give up to maintain your pool. With a concrete pool, this will be a significant amount of time as concrete pools require diligent efforts to keep them clean and algae free. Chemical balance is a large part of concrete pool maintenance, and if not cared for will have long terms consequences. For vinyl liner pools, while maintenance is still important, it is not as much as concrete. Paying attention to the chemical balance is still very important, as bad chemical care will eat up a vinyl liner in a couple of seasons. I have seen vinyl liners only three years old that were as brittle as saltine crackers, mostly because chlorine levels were permitted to get too high and did their damage. Fiberglass swimming pools, will still require some cleaning - leaves and dirt will get into your pool, and chemical balance is important as well, just to keep the water comfortable for swimming. Low PH makes eyes sting, but compared to other types of pool construction. Fiberglass swimming pools are extremely low maintenance, and will give you much more time to just do the important things - like doing nothing. I don’t know if you can put a price on that but most of us think it is worth a lot.
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